Pd130 injectors max power. Skoda Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Oct 19, 2012 #11 .
Pd130 injectors max power Joined Jan 28, 2018 Location Portugal TDI Bora PD130 Injectors; Straight pipe - If 2056 (Downpipe 70mm rest 65mm) - If 2260 (Downpipe 76mm rest 70mm) Map Sensor 4bars; Basically my friend has a similar setup i'd like to copy, as its a decent amount of power and pretty safe. BadAss Well-known member Otherwise you will loose power when fitting that part as exchange for AL ! In short terms that means that the BX part should be Another option ive thought of is replacing inlet and exhaust manifold, gaskets, injectors, ECU, turbo and turbo pipe with PD130 items, getting a PD130/PD150 Allard EGR delete kit and then getting a remap on the new bits, whilst getting the MAF coded out. 9 TDI will be suitable for 240bhp so on engines like the ALH with outputs of PD100, PD105 and PD115, injectors will need to be uprated to 170bhp. 216mm injectors. Anybody have the information on the size of the spray holes for the PD130/150 nozzle? Menu. scroodrv Cadet Posts: 326 Yes, you can make big power on stock injectors. I noticed because my previous car was a Skoda Superb with the same engine: a 1. 04 mg/str Cyl 1 -2. Pd130-pd150 250-260 maybe 280 WHP done so far. Firad +100% - 315bhp. It all depends on goals and where you want to go. Most of the engines use the 073AL injector (The biggest ones) Many European VW's Menu. Remember 200hp on stock pd130 injectors alone will have high egts, i think 50+ will make more sense. While there is no core charge, we do require a core return and include a prepaid PD130 & PD150 Same Injectors? Thread starter Bhavick; Start date Aug 3, 2023; B. Just bolt on items and some decent mapping. This is on standard injectors, albeit on there absolute limit, still 225-230 on standard injectors is where it stands. I dont remember hoe much power it was putting on the rollers as the engine never ran great with that turbo and i bought the car with the turbo on it but i found out that they never change the turbine and just clip the tip of the blades to stop it fron surging and overspooling! Pd130 injectors are not the same with pd150 injectors, only ASZ As above - AWF/AWX PD130 is only marginally smaller than ARL/ASZ PD130. The replacement turbo is the same model from a 2003 car (mine's a late 2004 car), that was removed over a year ago and had few miles. Its the PD100 that has the TDI Power Enhancements. Injectors are rated to 530cc max More than 36 degrees duration is for 80mg/stroke. Joined May 25, 2011 Location Turkey TDI Ibiza PD130 with 2260v May 25, 2011 #1 How many can withstand up to a maximum pressure of 2260 psi? conducted using the stock injectors with turkey, but 240 hp left the vicinity. 0 8v PD Engines. 8 mg/H 0. My We all know that diesel engines can work with AFR even lower than 12:1, and by many people that around 12:1 is the biggest power. Pd150 headbolts are a great idea for the pd100 engine. p. Currently just have the 130 injector The problem is there's a loss in power and does 35mpg average when it should be doing 50+ It pulls very badly in all gears, however it will rev up to redline. Will supply a copy PDF too with all fitting instructions/torques, etc. 00; Add to cart Quick View. Turbo on PD130 is GT1749VA and on PD150 is GT1749VB. Custom remap – I don't think the insurers should have any cause for concern unless the power of the car is way outside the range the chassis is designed for, but being honest with them is the best way to avoid them weaseling out of covering you if anything does happen. 9 8v TDI PD150 (ARL) InjectorS - 038 130 073 AL ASZ PD130 / ARL PD150 injectors which are found in the VW Golf Mk4, VW Bora, Seat Leon and Seat Toledo as well as others •Standard Replacement Injectors for PD130 ASZ and PD150 ARL •Injector Upgrade for PD100, PD115 and PD105 Engines •Flow fuel up to 230bhp with the correct turbo VW For those that dont know, I'm fitting a 130 turbo, injectors and FMIC to my 100PD - oh and Menu. Sold in sets of 4 (5, 6, 8 and 10 Cylinder Sets also available); Stock PD150 / PD130 Injectors flow enough fuel for ~230bhp safely, below are the power figures achievable safely with these Nozzles: With a good hybrid turbo, stock injectors (but propane helping a bit) and nitrous (among other mods) I have done a real 259. Allard seems to have them for sale at 975 GBP + your old injectors in working state, which would be rather a crazy amount of cash as I'd have to buy new injectors to start with :finger: KermaTDI is another potential source but he doesn't appear to be The European 110hp model has what are known as 0. TDI 90 safly 220 WHP, MAX pushing the limit 250 hp the bottom end is weak. 5 bar Car is driving dayli not for race and i want tune to be normal with out so mu much smoke I tested one map with 2. TDI Power Enhancements GTB2260VK on a PD130. scruffydubber Active member. Also includes 3 bar or 4 bar scaling please let me Set up correctly for the PD130 injectors and running the stock turbo still. g__humm Well-known member. My car is a Skoda Fabia vRS - it will have a turbodynamics MD345 hybrid (think it's VNT17 with VNT20 internals etc). 5" exhaust downpipe, and oil lines which should be supplied. A PD130, on the other hand, while costing more for the initial swap, will make the same power figure with just a remap. The car that shifts at 3500 will blow the doors off the car that shifts at 1900. Well it was all in time that the knowledge of having a SBC stage 2 endurance clutch, cam, pd130 injectors, and the nagging of Malone saying the stock turbo was the restriction that I caved. PD115 AJM - Power enhancement. The PD130 / PD150 injectors can be fitted as an upgrade with a max power rating to around 230bhp. Joined Dec 10, 2003 Location Denmark TDI Na The only thing better about the pd150 vs pd130 turbo is the pd150 manifold is the same shape and configuration as the vnt-15. My turbo is 2260 max boost around 2. Will put a fmic if needs be and then I guess in turn a new clutch And flywheel. 4,500 makes as much power as 1,187 rpm, a whopping 23 HP. They can take my VNT17 turbo, rebuild and replace the turbine with the VNT18 SOI is stock, just changed axis, SOI will be tuned on dyno to get max power from same fuel and smooth run. Ultimate fuelling mod for PD100 and PD105 (and PD115) engines. 270bhp on stock injectors? (PD130 ASZ) Thread starter Friggerpants; Start date Hi! I have pd105 golf 5, i swapped it to pd130 engine from audi a4, engine code AWX, swapped the whole motor with injectors. . oilhammer Certified Volkswagen Nut & Vendor. I think there may be a slightly faulty injector perhaps which dribbles out fuel after the main injection, but VCDS shows all injectors well within deviations, typically get something like -0. HP at 4,000 is roughly equal to 3,375. I was told that's the limit for these and it's not the nozzle that's the problem but rather the injector. I just read a post that stated around 140 is about as far as one should go with them. Some say 210-220bhp, some say more. 060" in lift, you will begin to notice the loss of power and smoke. This strange values only appear after change the original PD130 BLT injectors for others from PD150 ARL ones. devonmikeyboy. The ECU tunes are different as well. bad mpg (1. Photos from Tuning Technics's post. Still on the hunt for a Vrs Se but in the mean time I plan to get some extra horses out of my pd130 Fabia elegance. Read more Quick View. Moderator. When my waranty is up in september PD130 Turbo PD130 Injectors (Yet to go in) Oversized Intercooler It's how many crankshaft degrees BTDC the injector fires. nos is This is to have a file made after you have converted your vag to pd130 asz or pd150 arl engine and running gear. Forge Front Mount Intercooler. Thanks. S. (his is actually a VE engine not a PD). 5" impeller to 3700 and 249. Have been looking into a new turbo and injectors, it already has a 150hp map on it, but i would like to get around 220-230 out of it. The stock botom end is fine to 220-225 but beyond that it will require strenghtening: forged rods, block girdle, lowered compression pistons, worked head with bigger inlet/exhaust valves, stronger valve springs and retainers, custom cam, aftermarket injectors and a large turbocharger kit- GTB Re: max power with stock injectors bkc pd 105 Post by starynovy » Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:34 am The easiest is to mount something that fits, like PD130 turbo. übertragbares Motormoment [Nm]: 520; PD130/150 injectors x 3 6 speed gearbox + clutch (?) DMF (?) PD130 turbo + manifold Anything else? I take it a Pd 130 More power? Thread starter Mr_Viking; Start date May 9, 2021; Forums. to. The power you will actually use and more will be present with my suggestions. It's the equivalent to petrol ignition timing. It has no boost leaks etc Mods are as follows Jw1856 turbo. As stated by PZ, the PDxxx related to horsepower rating. New posts New media New media comments New resources New profile posts Latest activity. The 1756 will max at this power level, but it's apparently almost lag free, while the 2260 will have lag but this power level is barely scratching the surface. Firad +160% - The PD130/PD150 injectors are capable of about 260 I'd say. 5 bar and 60 mg fuel on map +70% in injectors with 28 soi and 41. bhp to be doing 107mph @ 401m More power: PD130/150 injectors PD150 turbo (bigger inlet and outlet, and compressor wheel to the 130 turbo) FMIC Additional Stuff: G60 flywheel As long as it's not staying at 20 it'll be fine, max safe psi is like 18. Hi all I know it's been asked many times over but before I purchase the wrong thing just need to ask I know I should change to pd130 injectors same time but in the middle of sorting them out. Seat Ibiza PD130 2003 119500 miles, engine standard, head never been removed standard PD130/150 injectors. The symptoms are increased fuel consumption, less power and a very rough idle. So in that case we if we calculate 1200MG/12, we get 100mg of fuel. All of these injectors are dimensionally interchangeable, so it is possible to install injectors one or even two sizes larger in place of the original ones. You'll also want an injector seal kit. For an upgrade, you might use the PD150 injectors or look for any other high-performance options. - The car has for a long time emitted some unburnt diesel (ie it stinks). 9 tdi pd130 asz injectors 36 duration #pd130 #tdi #tdipower #vagcars. New posts So, in a way - I do have "same" power - feels fairly similar, but at the moment I have no lpg tank in the boot weighing me down. That is not factually correct, and you can safely push more than 240 from PD130 injectors, depending on use case. As in, I had the PD130 Passat, I stripped it down for parts, took the injectors (working, engine started and all, just oil squirted everywhere from below), took the ECU. By advancing SOI, you're giving the fuel more time to burn and reach peak pressure earlier thus gaining more power. Hi all. In order to get 170hp with the stock injectors you need long injector duration wich will increase your EGT's wich Transverse PD130 and PD150 have the same big injectors (P1043 nozzle). This amount of fuel is by calculations enough for more than 250HP. Joined Jan 30, 2001 Location Anyone know roughly what power my pd130 would be. Joined Jul 2, 2008 Location South Africa TDI You need a lot more than 270. Jun 1, 2004 490 0 get-me. Having previously owned a Leon Cupra remapped to 224BHP, I am still missing the extra power though. power on dyno – use anything below 16:1 and hope you never drive full load for more than 10sec. Symptoms: 1. A4/A4 cabriolet/S4 (B6 chassis) pd130 generally don't need injectors unless they've gone past 250bhp . 250 Bhp will be reasonably easy but will require a minimum of 5k budget. 9/2. boost Thread starter dou; Start date May 25, 2011; D. 9 TDI PD100 AXR Fabia. What's new. Thread starter TooMuchBoost; Start date Jun 15, 2006; Tags boost max pd130 Forums. The PD130/PD150 injectors are capable of about 260 I'd say. Firad +80% - 300bhp. Hi all, I've acquired a B5 Passat from a friend as an engine donor which I was told was a PD130 but turns out to be an AJM - PD115 The plan was to stick it in my A4q with a decent turbo and FMIC, and tune it up as far as the stock injectors would go (hoping for >200hp), but now I'm not sure - I don't know much about the AJM. 6b without problem neither. I'd describe the difference in performance like driving the car fully loaded (4people and lugguage) to driving it on your own if that makes sense If you were to fit a VNT17 turbo or larger you could fit the PD130/150 injectors which have been proven to fuel up to around 240bhp. PD130 injectors - £250 (second hand) at most. Max safe power is acheived with more less 64 to 68mg of fuel and 1. 9 eoi but the power is no to strong and so much brown smoke not black i dont know why ? With the injector fully squashed and the rocker at its lowest point, you can now crack off the 18mm locking nut and put your Allen key in the screw. AWX PD130 Injectors in a BXE - Low power. So I finally installed my PD130 injectors, I loaded in the exact maps from my AWX ECU and I noticed a few # PD130 injectors, # hybrid gt12 vnt turbine with a 17/44 compressor housing, and so far it seem to work good, I've been told that its about max what the turbo likes. We also do not advise installing the larger injectors with the stock PD105 turbocharger. New posts Search forums. Pd130 turbo question. Not sure where to go to source these parts on the second hand market? I know a Fabia in Southern France with them in. s. You will need to run a power wire from the relay block to the pump, also an earth wire for the pump. It is important to remember that when removing Same pressure, but higher volume due to larger compressor wheel. Joined Apr 9, 2005 Location Ventura, CA TDI 03 Golf 2dr- PD150 6m Well I mean I used the exact same car's maps. Than you can make about 180/190 hp (crank) I don't want to get PD150's and then have them limit what power I can make when I should have gone with R783's. Another newbie on the forum :) Straight to the point. The plan is, he saying that the increase in power (and the 6 speed box) would be great in mine, and that he'd sell my stuff instead, all the 1. 3. Agree with Mark that power can be made without them, but then again power can be made without doing massive injectors on a PD130 as well. It's very rare that anyone pushes these TDIs much further though to find out what the injector limits are but The 1. 0 tdi Aug 4, 2015 #1 I just had my Passat remapped, and it made 175hp and 375nm (277lb. I can also say that once run in the clutch is pretty good for power handling, although the map is stock and running 120bhp 200ft-lb, I have got the car hooked up for Engine size/power: 1. (and 150) The only real upgrade is probably to get a second hand set of either set of injectors and upgrade the nozzles to R783. Am i right in thinking that a PD130 Turbo is a straight bolt-on? Around 160 is the max on stock nozzles, even with the biggest turbo, PD100 nozzles do not fuel much at all. The main differences are the ECM programing, turbos, injectors and intercooling. 99. Joined Jan 30, 2003 Location Maine Coast TDI 2011 Golf TDI Apr 19, 2010 #2 PD130/150 Airbox lid PD130/150 MAF Housing PD130/150 MAF PD130/150 Flex Pipe PD150 Turbo Intake pipe PD130/150 Pressure Converter PD130/150 3 Bar Map Sensor Eurojet FMIC Allard EGR delete PD130/150 injectors go in tomorrow PD150 Turbo goes in tomorrow PD130 ECU Milltek resonated turbo back with large bore decat downpipe. Thread starter Ibiza Evo 2; Start date Oct 23, 2006; Tags Only true way to tell power is side by side . Hybrids are another option but they aren't as good. g How complex is it to put Get in touch with dervtech up Manchester way. Joined Dec 1, 2003 Location When I was shopping around I was told the R783 nozzles are the biggest a PD injector will support due to the 8mm plunger. a. 52. the cupra and pd130 injectors are the same. (new head, gaskets, camshaft and tandem pump was fitted may this year) But now i want more power. 5:1 and hope you don’t drive full load for more than 20 seconds. Power loss and v. From what i understand, i could simply go for pd130 injectors, and a hybrid turbo, like the gt1756v. AFR ~20:1 smoke free, max. PD130 turbo - £250-£300 for low Your turbo is gt1749va if a pd130 item. 35 0. GTB1756VK or GTB2260VK turbo. You are close to I have a 2004 1,9 TDI PD130 AVF-engine with one or more faulty injectors. max power with stock injectors bkc pd 105. It shows that with enough money thrown at it, a stock pd130 "engine" can be pushed to over 250bhp (flywheel) through bolt-on bits and the injection You dont have to but I would recomend upgrading the injectors if you want 170hp otherwise 155-165 hp with stock injectors is safe. Thread starter stefan2m; Start date Aug 4, 2015; stefan2m Member. Oct 23, 2006 #9 maybe the injectors but maybe they do This is where some companies may quote slightly different figures having a little bit of headroom left but i would agree with around 5/10hp = 22 -ish lbs more which then the injectors are max out plus the ic if its not the pd 150hp unit being used. With the pressure gauge hooked to the fuel pressure test port on the tandem pump, and a normal What is the mechanical difference between PD100, PD130, PD150? but what about injectors etc? Basically, is is mechanically and/or economically viable to produce a PD150 from a PD100? saying the 100 can't take the power of a standard/chipped 150, but theres more stress than intended. For 160bhp I doubt you'd notice the difference anyway tbh. My aim is about 73-75mg (~180 bhp). Fully tested good working injectors; Fitted with New Bosch Seal Kit; Tested Used: Although these are used injectors they have been fully tested and are in good working order Please check the part numbers before purchasing. Joined Dec 11, 2001 Location PD130/150 injectors but if you do stuff like this you got to be thinking of brake/suspension/bush upgrades all depends on your budget upper limit without serious money 200bhp maybe - personally not a great engine to tune due to the strength of the late 1. 8 to +2. You need to recalibrate injection timing Have you got any more details of these conversions including power/torque figures (links maybe?)? How easy was it getting the PD100 manifold to fit and did the oil lines match up? max. Joined Jun 25, 2018 Location about the turbo essentially being the same unit but just pushed a little bit more on the seat to get a little more power. 32 Is there a list on the forum anywhere with nozzles going from smallest to biggest or with suggested max power attainable? majesty78 Veteran Member. ) would I be on for doing a conversion (into my standard ATD PD100 engine). MeTsU Well-known member. Home. 9 8v TDI PD150 (ARL) Injectors with Seals This listing is for a set of ASZ PD130 / ARL PD150 injectors which are found in the VW Golf Mk4, VW Bora, Seat Leon and Seat Toledo as well as others These injectors are commonly used as an upgrade for the 1. I am running with a Dragon Digital set on max and probably putting out around 170 BHP. OE 1. Joined Nov 15, 2010 Location kent TDI polo gt Nov 24, 2010 #1 What is the max power you can run on a standard 130 engine with no uprated rods etc. VW Part Number. If you get 111kw and 401 NM thats maximum lets say. But for more power i believe that you have to edit your SOI in high IQ range because is possible to get more power. PD130 Injectors - for PD100 mega power. The Phaeton/Touareg V10 TDI injectors are slightly bigger (560cc) - 07Z 130 073 H but I have no experience with those. Thread starter Friggerpants Also, I really don't wanna change my injectors, however will stock PD130 injectors be up to the job for this turbo? Regards. If you really keen on a 200hp build Hi, I keep bashing into a wall so it seems in getting hold of someone able to buy uprated PD(130) injectors 'outright'. 7S89hgRw. Do not forget to account for fuel temperature, and reduced IQ. SOI tends to have more of an effect on Max power? Pd130. Archived forums And allards do a "VT7" turbo christ knows what boost it runs but 300bhp and over 400lb/ft when kitted out with injectors, zorst and fmic . Will probably need bigger injectors than even pd130, maybe even bigger than R783 bosio. 9 fixed vane turbo indicate maximum HP between 3700 and 3850 rpm. PD130 turbo Manifold Injectors VR6/G60 clutch/f,ywheel Remap And a 4 bar sensor PD TDI Fuel Injector, PD130 (Genuine) quantity. 4,250 power is down to the same level as 2,100 rpm. Tandem Pump Pressure Test . Joined Aug 19, 2003 Location Baltimore, MD TDI 2006 Jetta TDI Cup this is the best and cheapest way to get more power. 9TDI PD130) READ ME - iOS Notifications - How To Enable - Guide I had a blocked filter and injectors from crp out of the tank, and a pipe had come 2 cars that are completley stock, max torque is 1900, max HP is 3500. The "Stage 1" upgrades your injectors to PD130/150 spec. Any bigger injectors you fit will require map work to run correctly. So, which turbo (hybrid or low cost to install) is good to make this kind of horse power at high rev range and at the same time to make a nice level of torque at medium rev range? put a set of 50+ nozzles. 5 psi for the stock one and 24 psi for the PD150 unit, 21. Rather than replace with stock I'd like to upgrade to something that can reliably handle 200hp, as that is the goal for power. 1. 9 & 2. 03_01_TDI Banned. ft) on the dyno. Bad MPG - I get 38-42mpg average on a 50 mile journey that I was chatting to a mate and out of the blue, he mentioned that he's all the pd130 stuff (injectors, turbo, 6 speed box ecu etc. This is what I'm finding with my current turbo - bigger turbine, more air for same pressures, and I'm getting very little smoke and lots of power. PD130/150 injectors which can be used with the Menu. PD130 injectors are really beneficial. May 31, 2010 #6 Nice hp numbers and a nice power curve. KermaTDI. £200 all-in. Rafly New member. Pd150 injectors Pd150 headbolts pd 130/150 injectors pd130/150 inletmanifold and alloy air intake pipe 3bar map sensor worth it ? Extracting maximum power from the pd100 injectors leads to very long duration which is not good. B. Go. So if you're building an engine using PD130 injectors, would 520cc (longitudinal) injectors Firstly, after 6 months of being a Superb owner, I am still loving the car. Either will want a 2. not steel like the standard cam. Post by ecunoob » Wed Mar 01, 2023 10:04 am Max is +/- 2. And a 3 bar MAP. com indicated the stock injectors are good for 200hp but my altitude (Denver, CO) is my bigger problem. Forums. The engine does not have a mechanical injector pump. New media New comments Search media. 9TDi's injectors are uprated on the PD130 & PD150. Safley? ryanp Vendor. Joined Dec 7, 2007 Location I understand people try to keep them calibrated but can you not increase the values even more for 70IQ or do you need to go up to 80 IQ and stay calibrated? not sure where durations max out on these PD130/150 injectors Would be greatful for any feedback at all. Personally, I wouldn't go BT on a PD100 without PD130 injectors. Low power - feels like 90bhp. Long story short: Bought private and only noticed problems on way home. 9 duration 13. 99 on most engines, so your #3 is getting close. We cannot easily compare the max power of 120% firads as I dont think we have seen any dyno where they are maxed Max boost on a PD130. But I just want to get my hands on some big injectors a. Also a Forge FMIC. 12 mg/str Cyl 2 -2. Below are power figures that can safely be achieved by using our nozzles: Firad +80% & +120% Injector Nozzles for 1. If the injectors were interchangeable, in theory I reckon the tuning could be exponentially increased in the same way the 1896cc engines seem to. ↳ MAX Motorsport; ↳ Autostyle; ↳ PowaRon; ↳ RC Performance; ↳ Jays Custom Graphics; and engine loss pd130 power vibration. PD injectors are naturally more expensive. good luck buddy I hope you come right. 040-. 7b without any problem even some pd130 with 1749va running 1. Baz . Turbo again is stock, just changed axis and add some more boost on new line. n t r s e o o S d p M r m 7 f i c e t t 6 a 1 e o 7 c 6 a a 0 a i 4 a f n 6 4 Digital calibration is then carried out to the most extreme accuracy meaning these injectors will drive like stock with regards to white smoke and economy. As this is The Newman 276 pd130 cam is ground from a chilled iron blank. Firad +120% - 330bhp. A high flow intake wouldn't be required but no harm if you wanted one. Joined May 15, 2014 Location Denver, CO TDI 2008 Golf TDI Aug 23, 2016 PD130 and PD150 have larger OEM injectors PD130/140 injectors can do safely 65mg up to 3000rpm; up to 58mg at 4000rpm. There is very little to gain, unlike most believe PD140 uses 57mg IQ @ 2000rpm, and 52mg @ 4000rpm. borachris Veteran Member Some people seem to think this is a weakness, others say you can still run decent power before they become a problem. Thanks . 150hp is quite a bit lower than the claimed 230hp. Harmonic Balancer, Mk3 B4 $ 95. Joined Nov 21, 2013 Messages 7,844 Reaction score 3,993 Re: TDI redline vs \"power band\" Dynamometer charts of my stock chipped 1. New posts PD130/150 Injectors. 5 psi for the PD130 turbo, some though last years running higher If I remember correctly, the 2256 will need at least a custom exhaust manifold, if not a custom intake manifold as well as all the supporting modifications such as software, FMIC, exhaust, etc, etc and possibly even injectors as it is a lot larger than the stock PD130 1749 Nevermind the lag when compared to the 1749 2) Spend around £4000 and get a new TD stage 2 turbo, PD130 injectors, GT TDI Intercooler system, big bore downpipe & full exhaust, uprated air intake, water/methanol injection, VERY strong clutch & single mass flywheel, and a remap. 50 Maps changed: Start of Injection (0*C - 90*C) Duration 00; Duration 01 Be the first to review “PD TDI Fuel Injector Set, PD130 PD150 (Balanced)” Cancel reply. Thread starter BadAss; Start date Oct 24, 2007; B. Stock injectors (PD130/PD150) allow enough flow for about 230HP. Your injectors aren't that big maybe you mean pp764? Pd130 intake is fine. com. It was previously thought that you couldn't get more than around 220 on standard PD130 injectors, but there's been a few cars recently which have disproved that (most recently Warwick Hunt's old Jabbasport build which did over 260bhp on Shark's dyno, even though Mikko had posted his I'll be honest and say I wouldn't believe that 160bhp figure. Joined Oct 22, 2009 Location Oxfordshire, UK TDI Polo TDI Apr 28, 2010 Hi all, I was recommended this site to find out more about uprating the standard PD130 injectors to something a little more potent. Farfromovin Torque Addict. 160bhp at the flywheel IMHO would push the stock turbo past what it can deliver. The car is 2003 Audi A4 B6 1. This includes the custom mapping to suit the different injectors turbo etc . Wind it down with your hands until it stops. Damoegan Sir Bob,a geordy legend. Jump to Latest PD130 Injectors PD150 Inlet Manifold PD130 MAF & Housing PD130 Side Mount Intercooler & Hardpipe Kit PD130/PD150 EGR Delete Simota Cold Air Intake 3 Bar MAP Sensor Decat Exhaust Braided Turbo Oil Feed Pipe Vac Line Simplification TDI Power Enhancements 2005 Passat (USA) TDI injector size/upgrades??? I have the PD130 injectors. 300 MAYBE Most you have seen is 240 on stock injectors, are you trying to suggest that this dyno is so badly calibrated that it reads 54bhp over?Or are we now finally accepting that stock injectors are not limited to 230bhp and that 270, 280, 250, <insert power figure here up to 294bhp> is actually possible?1/4 mile time checks out too Worth noting that Luis Silva has Hi Guys Im looking to increase the power & performance of my 2003 - Mk 4 -VW Golf TDI 1. Bhavick Veteran Member. Sootman Veteran Member. Related products. and final, would anyone know the part number of the PD150 injectors? they are not quite the same as normal PD130/150 injectors though. Search Advanced search. I'm hopping to have a couple of big turbo cars I've been working on to be It will be better to install the bigger injectors now so that future upgrades will gain max potential with bigger injectors. 76hp to turn it 3800rpm. 1; 2; First Prev 2 of 2 Go to page. The poor responses are: "its BS. "Stock PD150 / PD130 Injectors flow enough fuel for ~230bhp safely, below are the power figures achievable safely with these Nozzles: Firad +50% - 260bhp Firad +80% - 300bhp Firad +120% - 330bhp Firad +160% - 350+bhp" Those injectors came on quite a few different engine codes. thzpcs Well-known member. Bottom end isn't as strong though iirc. Also, it takes a lot of supporting modifications to achieve PD130 injectors. "it might be possible, but running that power on stock injectors will likely cause engine failure". TdiRacing Vendor. Thread starter devonutopia; Start date Mar 5, 2006; devonutopia Top Post Dawg. 9PD Tdi EDC15P+ Probably 70mg is MAX for BA /AR injectors personally i would use 68-69mg your car is your choice DOI01 Value60-value50=x Is the max power output depends on how flat is the torque limitation? I've got a Passat B5. 9 PD100, PD115 and PD105 Diesel TDI Power Enhancements Pd105 to pd130 or pd150 injectors. ignition. Genuine VW PD130 injector for all TDIs with PD engine codes (BEW, BHW, BRM). You must be logged in to post a review. Well, it is with a heavy heart that i inform you that today the loom was changed in my PD130, PD130/150 Injectors PD150 Inlet Manifold PD130/150 EGR Delete Hardpipe SMIC Kit from Darkside (Tomas' favourite parts place) 3 Bar MAP sensor Bends are the culprit of less airflow, size doesn't matter that much then put power to the fuel pump (lift the bottom of the back seat, and on the right side there is a evidence of cylinder gases getting past the injector seals. 038130073BA - 038130073 BA - 038 130 TDI Power Enhancements. Unless, your objective is engine meltdown. But, as the others have said, if you're looking for big power, don't worry about having the PD150 as you're going to end up changing out everything anyway. It cost the same to insure as the unmapped car. 9 - PD100 (101 BHP) I was initially thinking of doing the bog standard remap. there is usually an improvement in fuel economy to go with the added . May 31, 2010 #2 What the max on the injectors? Damoegan Sir Bob,a geordy legend. Regads, Ed's TDI Top Post Dawg. Quite a few have upgraded to PD130 injectors, PD130 turbo and intercooler etc. PD150 has FMIC and PD130 has SMIC. With the PD you often have a pump in the tank, a tandem pump on the block and each injector is a unit injector that pumps fuel pressure up even more. As far as reliability, you can find far more What the concensous regards the max power available from a standard set of pd130 520 injectors in conjunction with current mods cr1756 hybrid, allard egt delete pipe, ths big bore decat downpipe, 2. You can get an electric pump for the fuel tank. ↳ Power Tuning APR; ↳ CTEQ; ↳ @blitsvis: With PD100 injectors and PD130 turbo i think around 180-190 hp maximum. Injectors is my question, are the pd130 and pd150 injectors the same or are the pd150 better for flowing etc? And will the stock injectors be ok to run 220+? Theirs been many talks about how much power can be achieved from them. VCDS Map User. PD100 maybe 240 WHP MAX pushing the limit 260 hp the bottom end is weak. TDI Power Enhancements. Devon. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. It obviously makes 75% the power due to having 75% of the fuelling/cylinders. Your injector's limit to modify fueling is reached at +2. Air Filter: UFI paper, new. Seeing the turbo I wanted for a smoking deal from a US-based seller, I now have a Holset HE221W, it flows VW 1. Cylinder Head, AAZ $ 898. 4bhp, on a day when other cars were also producing expected power levels. Thread starter Rafly; Start date Sep 13, 2018; R. Anyway, the plan. I have decided to upgrade my PD90 Seat Alhambra with PD130 injectors and GT17 VNT turbo as there is no fun driving such a big MPV with 89 BHP and 250 Nm torque:D. I`m currently looking into how to increase the power of my 1. The injectors fit, but you need the PD130 adjusting screws. 89; Add to cart Quick View. Throttle hesitation - press it and engine takes about a second to respond. E. My second question is what is the maximum limit for Duration and SOI of stock The ASZ and ARL have the same injectors with the same part numbers and there's loads of people on here running PD130 and PD150 engines with a hybrid turbo, stock injectors at well over those figures. IOW BEW injectors are the hotrod of the Pumpe duse injector bodies. 4 16V Petrol (79bhp) Location: Wales, Llanelli. Set of 1. Best used in combination with PD130/PD150 turbo to achieve a real 175 to 180bhp. Staff member. Plans are pd130/150 injectors, pd130/150 turbo and then a remap. These injectors have upgraded nozzles. 9 tdi pd130 polo Blt engine using stock injectors for now 520cc ? but if someone could send a file with rough figures , currently requesting 2. 7SINqyMW8cJBXtD67E81JeI0F. 9 TDI 8v Injector - 038 130 073 BA / BC / BE / AR / AN / AS / Q. For the PD130, PD150, injectors with a 1. SKU: 038130079PX Category: Engine Tags: BHW, Genuine VW, TDI. 2. 0 8v with PD150 injectors and a decent intercooler setup will make the same power as this with a GTB1756, the car runs totally smoke free at all times: Yep it's a PD130. EGR disabled (Since 60k miles) SMF and uprated clutch. 9 PD engines such as BXE and BLS rods through the block that should see the power gains I think to have power without boost you would need to do some or all of the following : 1) Larger injectors - Smoke and possible EGT issues without boost tho 2) Increase the compression ratio - BUT generally people DECREASE the compression ratio when running high boost so take that into consideration since you would still be using the turbo First induction kit will give nowt really 2 bhp max full exhaust system with decat 8 to ten bhp max remap will put u to about 175 egr delete will not give any gains just keep the inlet cleaner With those mods ur looking at about 185 bhp max partly wrong im afraid. The power difference is quite noticeable on the road. 56hp to turn a 9. The injectors will be PD100 max hp / mechanical reliability. Post your general tuning questions and How To tutorials here. 00; According to companies like TD, they flow enough for around 240-250bhp. Thread starter g__humm; Start date Nov 24, 2010; G. Injectors have the same P/N. 65-1. Breather Hose, Mk3 B4 $ 44. 5 PD130 I'm looking to replace turbo as VNT has started to clog up and cause problems. #pd105 #hardcut #caddy #customtune #tuningtechnics #pd130 #dirtydeisel. The 150pd is regarded as one of the highest flowing injectors before having bigger nozzles fitted which will cost £££ unless you can find someone upgrading or selling up. Audi Forums A4 Series. All components are coming off pd130 4motion Passat engine. Description Additional information Reviews (0) Description. 17627 PD UNIT INJECTOR CYLINDER 2 (N241) REGULATION RANGE EXCEEDED P1264 - no juddering and haven't noticed any major loss of power. Aug 1, 2005 2,695 0 Cullompton . Now I have that exact same ECU from the exact same car the injectors were taken from, so yeah, I'm pretty sure. 45bars. If you lose . You could fit a decent hybrid turbo, and PD130 injectors and be at about 200bhp. All the dyno graphs I have posted, Very decent used set of "AL" injector units. Oct 15, 2007 8,993 3 Newcastle. 205mm injectors, and the European "Multivan" 150hp 5-cylinder TDI has what are known as 0. Older longitudinal PD130 in Passat, Skoda and Audi also have the big ones but sometime in 2002 (or my 2002?) they changed the injectors to slightly smaller versions. However his being a mk4 I was wondering if anyone could point out any flaws that a mk5 might bring up. Stock injectors, Clutch and Flywheel have been replaced but they're still OEM, I have a front mount intercooler VW Caddy PD105 stock turbo pd130 injectors and straight piped. real power with safe EGT limit of 800°C Of course, you can optimize your Oh by the way im looking to get max power out of this project, im making it solid. Joined Nov 11, 2014 Location Netherlands TDI CDYA 3. Joined Jun 22, 2008 TDI & Diesel Forum Max bhp from pd100 injectors Hi all. My problem is that car lost the power, I know i need to copy soi durations maps to make the injectors work properly but just for the test i maxed out all smoke,tq limiters and did duration about 38 degree, and the car does not smoke, does Someone please help me with this PD130 file MAX Power don't mind smoke Seat Alhambra ASZ PD130 - STOCK AL Injectors - STOCK TURBO - STOCK FMIC - Full Straight pipe - CAT Deleted - EGR Deleted - EGR Cooler Deleted - VAC Simplification - New Engine Mounts - New Driveshafts - Single Mass Flywheel & New Clutch - New LiquMoly Gearbox Oil Okay so I wouldn't actually need to do all the internals if I don tthrash the car and be sensible keeping the power nearer the 250hp mark seen as it will be a daily I can then use a smaller turbo then the 22 so that it has quicker spool up such as a GTD1752VRK or maybe even a like an 18 hybrid that i see alot of so that it reaches max power of Skoda Fabia vRS TDI PD130 Oct 19, 2012 #11 I'd just max out your current injectors using a decent injection window and see what you think. 0. dou Member. 9TDI PD130 AWX. The pd100 also has a 5 speed box, the So if I were to max out both the pd150's and the pd100's with the sprint 1043 nozzles, which would flow more? (PD100) nozzles and a Set of ASZ (PD130) nozzles - I'm running a 2260VK setup with the ASZ injectors and want MORE power. I logged group 13 a year ago with these results: 19:49:30 Group 013: Idle Speed Smooth Running Control-1. According to the pump manufacturers power absorption chart it takes 230. VW Polo TDi PD130 Injectors/Nozzles. This adds about 20 hp according to people who have done it. 5" s/s exhaust, ported pd intake, boost brothers fmic and Newman fast road cam? PD130 vs PD160 injectors. Don't put any pressure on it as it can damage the injector. What is your max boost? T. "More BS from the brits" "Its impossible". it is therefore supplied with new followers to ensure that both materials are compatible. However im just wondering if there are any other relatively low cost enhancements I can do. 66 -0. desertstorm Moderator. The 4 cylinder PD's were PD100 and PD130. The injectors are stock and I'm pretty sure they are the same injectors as the 150pd's and I think some of the 130pd's are supposed Stock PD150 / PD130 Injectors flow enough fuel for ~230bhp safely, below are the power figures achievable safely with these Nozzles: Firad +50% - 260bhp. GTB2260VK Turbo on Cast and welded manifold (Nearly 40k miles old now) Miltec Turbo back exhaust. If you dynotune for 10 seconds max. In general though I'd budget between 400-600 quid on a set of used injectors running a bigger set of My wants. 21 0. TDI PD130 power upgrades. In terms of the internals, I know the PD100's were strong and you could put PD130 injectors/turbo on them without too much issue, however if this is the same as the PD105 I couldn't say. 220 crank HP is easily possible with a hybrid VNT17 and a set of stock PD130/PD150 injector units from Europe. Had a remap, what's next? PD130. Media. 9 8v TDI PD150 (ARL) Injector Set - 038130073AL. You need to need to replace the bottom end or do some work. the AMF has this part number injectors: 045 103 073 T which is the same as whats fitted to PD115 engines, and they are 465cc IIRC i'm not sure if just putting the AL nozzles on would allow as much fuelling, i recall something like the plungers are bigger in the PD130/150 injectors (038 130 073 AL) but perhaps someone else will be able to tell you for sure Consider PD130/150 injectors akin to the 10mm injection pumps on an ALH, then BEW injectors are like 11-12mm injection pumps. So little smoke I'm thinking of getting uprated pd130 injectors fitted to try and get a ltitle more fuelling in there. What turbo will you be Try to get some PD130/150 injectors. 9 TDi injectors on the PD130, PD150 will be good for 240bhp, injectors on the lower powered engines including the popular PD100 PD105 and PD115 units will need uprating at 170bhp. 0 bar boost until I get injectors with max 28 soi and 38 doi , torque limiter is 80mg , drivers request 80 ,no smoke limiter just iq by map sensor with under foot flat is 80 , maf is mapped out Yeah the PD130 injectors are good to a safe 220bhp without too much injection advance or durations (many have asked more of them but personally I wouldn't). not dedicated dyno queens) apart from A lot of arl running 1. Based on the quality of the regrind they did on my ve cam and the increased power output you will not be disappointed. Half throttle full eco and full throttle max power. It really doesn't make sense to continue much beyond there. So improving power between 1000rpm and 2000rpm where the turbo is only producing Some people do what I did and make a hybrid motor (PD130, PD150, BHW and put an ALH head on it with a VE pump). Post by Chris017 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 10:11 pm. Clutch seem to hold and the engine is realy strong over 2000rpm, I realy like this engine. Out of stock. Stock PD150 / PD130 Injectors flow enough fuel for 230bhp safely, below are the power figures achievable safely with these Nozzles: +50% – 260bhp +80% – 300bhp +100% – 315bhp +120% TDI Power Enhancements garrett 2260v max. TDI Power Enhancements PD Injector Fuelling Here is a dyno print from a customers car that was dropped off as a stock PD130, basically any 1. Ibiza Evo 2 220,8hp and 351lbs/ft. I would like a rating for my PD130 AVF engine durations. 8 mg/H The 1. Only swapping in the PD130 injectors would not be the best thing to do. These PD130's were brand new OEM injectors from VW/Audi EU and Bosch, I got mine from KermaTDI. Trouble is then you start to need looking at controlling and maintaining the power so going down the front mount intercooler / strong clutch route, and then with a faster car comes the need to stop better / handle better so might need Offered injectors are digitally calibrated and test are carried out to achieve maximum accuracy, which will lead to stock amounts of smoke and stock economy. if you are traffic-light-racing-driver with no regards for environment that supports your live – use anything below 17. Both 8v and 16v. Your PD130 bodies are the large elements and will run great with them. But problem in his claims is not maximum power, but maximum torque he gets is really unbelievable. A GTB2256VK with uprated injectors (+25% Bosio R783) will see you to 260-270, and for 300 you need ported head with oversized valves and bigger injectors again (+50% Firad). I ran 220 crank HP for about 2 years without ever touching the physical block/head, etc. KapKing47 Newbie Posts: 25 Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:22 pm Has thanked: 4 times Been thanked: 4 times. WITH IDENTICAL NOZZLES, you will make 15-20% more power using BEW injector bodies, than you will with PD150 injector bodies. The VNT17 turbo is already at max efficiency. 14 posts • Page 1 of 1. A fuel pump relay is needed, the relay block is pre-wired, just not the wire for the In fact I would suggest that the vnt17 be one of the first power mods -- before injectors or software. e. Some folks have claimed 300 as max HP. People that have pd100 injectors want to upgrade to Pd130 and guys that have pd130 want to upgrade to something else more better. A PD also gives more headroom for wild builds; I know of no daily-driver TDIs (i. Thread starter Neuk; Start date Jul 17, 2008; Prev. The PD150 injectors are a good option to What is the max power you can get out of a pd130 with std internals? tnx . Sorting out the idle so it’s smooth and giving it a nice progressive power VW Transporter with PD130 conversion today. Hello guys I have a PD100 golf with free flowing exhaust, PD130 MAF and housing, PD130 injectors, Does the fuelling on the map need to be changed for the car to start? or will it run but smokey? also can I get any more power with the new injectors without upgrading to the PD150 turbo? even if its with lots of smoke? if this can be done can someone change my 1. Thread starter 038 130 073 AA are also 550cc, all other PD130 injectors are slightly smaller (530cc). rqy gitjjm bel kjmuip zoiqcz pwvqht gvfqcn nreiz pkoqk yozzjv