Dating a western knife. A "WR2" was a rubber handle hunting knife.

Dating a western knife Start date Aug 21, 2021; PocketKnifeJimmy. Every chart I've ever seen has had problems, and the charts floating around for Western knives are no exception. Forgot Account? Buck Knives. This knife may not be worth much, but it’s priceless to me, and I am very honored to have it. A "WR2" was a rubber handle hunting knife. What are the specific characters to look for besides age appearances which can be manipulated. At this time, a new curved end-knob was designed to replace the symmetrical end-knob previously used for sheath knife handles. To identify a particular Western knife (without a model number) as to model and date range of manufacture, especially folders, you need the stamp, an overall shot, handle material, BL and OAL for FBs, closed length and blade length(s) for folders. The Western Knife Company, For dating early Western States knives, they used tangs stamps with the words WESTERN STATES in an arch and BOULDER, Re: Help dating Western Knife Post by zzyzzogeton » Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:07 am Since it has BOULDER, COLO. Per Western, this knife was introduced as a commercial product in 1964. You do not have the required permissions to view the files Start date Nov 8, 2020; G. in the stamp, it was made no later than 1972, as that line was dropped starting in 1973. I have a Western 239 pattern with the tang stamp WESTERN/BOULDER, COLO. Top. Thanks for Hi all, long-time lurker, first-time poster. In 1961 Western started stamping Western U. They dream of finding a Scagel, a fine bowie or an old Case knife at garage and estate sales. Having those early catalogs from the knife companies sure provides a definitive timeline for these older knives. Westmarks are serial numbered but I cannot find a chart on what numbers were made during what year. I was wondering if anyone could help in dating it? As well, the pics I’ve seen online all have a Today I'm researching a Western 742 - sorry to admit I forgot I had it! I have run into some confusion after reading various internet forums about Western date stamps. Camillus Manufactures a Quality Survival Knife, Marine Knife & Titanium Knife with a Lifetime Warranty. Starting with the number 43 pattern, the factory began producing the new sheath knives. Platts and Sons. (I also collect Western knives). Western Boulder Colo 5” Fixed Blade Knife Boulder Colo. Case and Sons, what do these knife companies all have in common? Stephanie Rigg Posted on May 15 2020 So in order to understand what these four companies all have in common, we have to go back to the very beginning of their stories. Blades. 1956-78 Western hunting knife made with carbon steel blade, stacked leather handle with vulcanized rubber spacers and aluminum pommel and leather sheath. The P28 has a sabre-ground blade instead of the standard flat grind. I am trying to dial in the possible year(s) it was produced and haven't yet come across a thread that really identifies it. slysir Hold my beer. One of the nicest Bowie knives made by Camillus had a crown stag Identification of a Western knife Start date Mar 30, 2004; ferguson. Western Cutlery was founded in 1896 in Boulder, Colorado, by a group While doing some research on a Western Knife Company knife that I recently listed on our website, I came across some really interesting information that I thought I would share. I’ve been a dedicated home cook for almost two decades, having grown up learning to cook from my mom. Between the newly changed Western USA tang stamp to before the dating system in 1977. N. Joined Feb 18, 2013 Messages 10,181 Likes 69,977 Location Florida. For the life raft you see much the same holder, but instead of the "lift the dot" fasteners for securing the knife to an aircraft fuselage the back of the holder has an adhesive on it covered with a peel away cover. The Western Knife company suddenly finds themselves right next door to a large contingent of new G. Below the 062 pattern number there is a letter (A,B,C). In 1991 the rights to the Western brand was auctioned to the Camillus Knife Co. Sale Price: $65. Viewed 7108 Times. The W47/W45/W43 were smaller bowies put out by Coleman-Western in 1990 (N date code). 1967-early 1968. ) Knife Exchange. Looks to be jigged delrin. Shop durable and reliable pocket knives perfect for ranch work, outdoor adventures, and everyday use. If I remember the old Western/Coleman-Western, and Camillus-Western magazine ads correctly, the only Western Sold Date; Source eBay Have a Old Western Model # 648A Fixed Blade Knife made in the USA. Case & Sons Cutlery, moved west to I personally have not seen any Western knives with the Ordnance Shell and Flame, but I do not especially collect Western knives so I could easily be incorrect. Posted by Brad T. Joined At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. Sheath shows wear and c Date or production tables relate Gerber Mark II serial numbers to the years they were manufactured. It got a quite a bit of real hunting use over the time Actually, at the time these were produced, the model was simply called the "Western Bowie Knife", with no model number assigned, at least in marketing literature. I've yet to find one of those knives with a date code on them from the 1977 to 91 time frame with any type handle. on their tangs. Steve1955. Last time we talked exclusively about Western fixed blade sheath knives, focusing on the classic stacked leather handled knives that used Western’s patented split tang At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. It opened a lot of c-rat cans, etc. Is there any way to date this I*XL hunter closer than the tang stamp would suggest 1890-1971. Jul 13, 2012 #1 As a person that has a few Western knives and a couple of Westmark knives, mostly prior to the Camillus days, I have always wondered if there are any records or places that have information on the serial number system used on the Westmarks. OLDSMOKE Start date Nov 8, 2020; G. . Additional Notes: Knife only. Just would like a little info with dating it. e o t o s n d p S r 1 g 1 5 i 4 l t 0 4 8 2 i u 6 2 1 7 g 8 9 t A i g h, 5 f c 2 3 0 7 h h t u 2 1 p 2 2 9 r 9 0 1 · TL;DR: Western-style knives are common in American kitchens and range from chef’s knives to paring knives to cleavers. B Battery, 3rd of the 6th. I’m slowly building a collection, and just acquired a Western L66 with sheath. Post by Owd Wullie » Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:11 am. 25" Trailing Point Plain Blade, Textured Delrin Handles, Nylon Sheath Retail price: $20. Joined "K" is the date code. Case & sons always seemed to. Other than being a newer knife and no year code date, on Camillus knives, the second line reads "U. 99 $17. Thanks -- saftot . Quick links. Anyone who has tried probably found that they didn't care about era's or dating schemes like W. 95 Save 23%. "D" was 1980, so "K" is 1987, if they used the letter "I" (i) The "W" indicates a Western knife and the second letter could be another "W" for wood handle or "L" for a leather handle. The “dot There is an illustration titled "Camillus Knives - that went to war!" on page 186/187 of The Standard Knife Collectors Guide 4th Edn. 95 for the price and $1. I took this as gospel until a few knives popped up with both the patent number and a model numbed stamped on the ricassos. s. From what I can tell through unconfirmed sources, it may be dated to ‘47-‘55. Another excellent book , full of colour prints is Pocket Knives I saw a graph on here when i did a search on the stamp pattern on western brand knives but the one i was looking for was out of the picture. Log In. This thread is started as an information repository for folks trying to From what I’m gathering, and only 1 part of this I can find a reputable source - it may be dated to ‘47-‘55. The WWII-era version had a straight crossguard. 5" bld and is 8 3/8" OA length. Joined Feb 21, 2001 Messages 4,238. in 1984 and goes on until 1991. In 1991, Camillus acquired Western Cutlery Company, which had been making knives since 1896. Anyways, I have this Western knife. It got a quite a bit of real hunting use over the time I have the knife listed above and I have 2 questions: What kind of finish does this knife have? What year was manufacture? Western U. " The L88 is a 1973-1976 knife. Western Bowies/W49 Stamps 1 ) Bx54 Bushman - All caps "WESTERN" parallel to the spine near the guard on the MARK side of the blade - 1943/1944 Western Knife Company The Western Knife Company, also known simply as Western Cutlery, is an iconic American knife manufacturer with a history dating back to the late 19th century. This was the last year that Western knives were produced in Boulder, Colorado. Campolin AAPK Knives & Apparel AKC Al Mar Anza Knives Bark River Bear & Son Cutlery Benchmade Knives Blackjack Boker Browning Knives Buck Buck Creek Bulldog Brand Camillus Knives Canal Street Cutlery Case Classic Case Knives Cattaraugus Civil War Era Cold Steel Colonel Coon Colonial Knives Colt Columbia River Cripple Creek Big thanks to @Warthogg1 for this awesome open tag. Go. Handle: Delrin. It grew to become one of the largest pocket knife manufacturers in the US during the 1960s. ↳ AAPK Knife Giveaways; ↳ AAPK Club Knife Forum; ↳ AAPK Tips and Tricks -- An Illustrated FAQ Forum on Steriods; General Knife Related Forums; ↳ General Knife Discussion; ↳ Knife Related Q&A; ↳ Counterfeit Watch; ↳ Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days; ↳ Switchblade Knife Collector`s Forum; ↳ Modern Tactical Knives Help dating my grandpas old Western Auto Supply Co hunting knife. Should be plenty of pictures if not feel free to ask any questions. 1 of 2 Go to page. Apparently all western knives post-‘55 displayed a model number (was in some forum somewhere). It does have a Boulder Stamp. The same stamp – with the last line written in a lower font – is common for the same age range. I have a Western Bowie knife that my father gave me years ago. This is a picture that shows the markings on the 1985 remake of the L71 Seabee knife. Joined Jan 20, 2006 Messages 4,834. the knife age i was looking for was a 666B. Dog229 Here, I came across a nice Western w36 hunters knife with a brass guard - no markings on blade but only on guard- WESTERN-on one side, W36-on the other side I have only info on my W49 Bowie but would like to know if the markings for the W36 are the same for each in knowing the era of this W36 was made i hope it is between mid sixties to early 70's the The Western Knife Company, C. R. Next Last. Reference to BOULDER, COLO. bocaj Posts: 168 Here is a photo showing 3 of my Western W49 Bowie knives This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. e. 1977 was also the first year that an alphabetical dating code was implemented. Camillus Knives Western Blactrax 7″ Folding Knife My knife is stamped WESTERN over U. does someone have the graph in whole they could post. Joined Howdy everyone. " The best I can say is "it's uncommon in a Shark knife, to have a wood handle". ↳ Western Cutlery Collector's Forum; ↳ Winchester Knife Collector's Forum; ↳ Other US-made Knives; ↳ Canal Street Cutlery; ↳ Colonel Coon; dsutton24 wrote: ↑ Wed Feb 22, 2023 2:54 am There aren't a lot of hard and fast rules when it comes to dating Western knives. Post by tacticalbeanpole » Wed Aug 10, asking around on Reddit for more info and restoration tips when somebody advised me that this wasn't any ordinary old knife, I guess Western means something in the knife world and this one might be pre WWII - lol - Grandpa was an avid 1977 Western Cutlery W49 Bowie with brass finger guard modification and lanyard hole. The first ones had WESTERN over Boulder Colo over PAT'D. This knife has the Lucite and pearl handle with a steel guard kootenay joe wrote: ↑ Wed Sep 09, 2020 10:08 am The handle on the Woodcraft is made of stacked leather rings over a straight tang. In the western moved to The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The only exception here is the set of a few Schrade knives made in the mid-1970s using bone-colored in brown, green, or red. In the 50's and 60's Western knives were ubiquitous for a good reason. Hard to date these Imperials, but from the tang stamps it could be from 1956 - 1988. ADD. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th dating, c. When Western's President, Harvey Platts, had The Knife Makers Who Went West published in 1978, no catalog or interim price list reprints from 1961 to 1967 were included, so details like internal Knife Collecting / Dating Western Knives A knife collector is drawn knives for many different reasons, the look, feel and style of a knife. One thing is certainly sure, whether a knife was made by Western in Boulder Colorado, or by Camillus in Camillus New York, their objects are now a part of history. I have about thirty of the older pre 1960 Western knives, mostly fixed blades, and I am very impressed with their quality and it seems the high carbon steel really holds an edge. They are a bit of a secret amongst Schrade sellers and buyers (most don't know the difference between them and the civilian versions; they are QUITE different). Post by tacticalbeanpole » Wed Aug 10, asking around on Reddit for more info and restoration tips when somebody advised me that this wasn't any ordinary old knife, I guess Western means something in the knife world and this one might be pre WWII - lol - Grandpa was an avid Dog229 Here, I came across a nice Western w36 hunters knife with a brass guard - no markings on blade but only on guard- WESTERN-on one side, W36-on the other side I have only info on my W49 Bowie but would like to know if the markings for the W36 are the same for each in knowing the era of this W36 was made i hope it is between mid sixties to early 70's the Need help dating this Western L66 - please and thanks. A. For the 110 Folding Hunter and 112 Ranger models: 1974-1980. One dot on left side, two dots on right side A rare Twin Set of Western Cutlery knives consists of a red-handle P48A (top) and P28 (bottom). So did the L66 I had back in the '60s, and my stepfather's F66 Black Beauty. This was the beginning of Western's leadership in the sheath knife field. Western BlacTrax 7″ Folding Knife $20. Platts & Sons Cutlery, Trying to narrow down the date of a Western L66 knife and sheath I just picked up. However A. ↳ Western Cutlery Collector's Forum; ↳ Winchester Knife Collector's Forum ↳ Colonel Coon; ↳ Cripple Creek; ↳ Keen Kutter; ↳ Maher and Grosh; ↳ Pal Cutlery; Knife Related Creation, Modification, And Restoration Forums; ↳ Knife Related Tutorials; ↳ Western USA W39 D Wood Fixed Blade Hunting Sheath Knife - Dade Code: D (Made in 1980) -Wood Handles -No Cracks - Has some Light Patina - Nice Unused Condition in the Original Leather Sale Date: 05/27/2018. "D" was 1980, so "K" is 1987, if they used the letter "I" (i) This will be a Part 2 to last month’s story on Western knives. No model number and the blade guard is made of steel I believe your knife would have a stamp similar to the first one in this lineup. Platts in Boulder, Colorado. Joined Aug 4, 2013 Messages 3,988. My knife is stamped WESTERN over U. The photos below show a Western USA stamp with an I date code (1985) and a Coleman-Western Just picked up a Western Boulder knife at my local hillbilly sale , the pat# is 1967479. Since then, Camillus has continued to expand its product range and introduce new knives annually. Stamped WESTERN Western moved to Longmont in 1978, so a Boulder stamped knife probably predates that. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. Thank you. A note about dating knives: Unless the knife has a date code of some kind on it, dating any knife based on tang stamps is an approximation at best. Dad got me "Camp Kit" From Montgomery Wards this kit included a web belt, Western USA W39 D Wood Fixed Blade Hunting Sheath Knife - Dade Code: D (Made in 1980) -Wood Handles -No Cracks - Has some Light Patina - Nice Unused Condition in the Original Leather Sale Date: 05/27/2018. Our collection of Western-style folding knives combines rugged craftsmanship with practical design, ideal for cowboys, cowgirls, and outdoor enthusiasts. In addition, Westaco was used on pocket knives in the 1930’s while West-Cut was used on hunting knives was used during the same time period. Is there anyone able to advise me on dating ? Western Field dating. I did pay a bit more than $21. 15 that was a good deal for what it would cost today. Platts, having sold his interest in W. , Pat'd, Made in USA. While the Western New Listing WW2 Western Boulder Colorado Model G46-5 Baby Shark Knife Original Sheath WWII No date on the receipt but at $19. I picked up an old Western at the flea market today with Knife Exchange. i gave it away. which is prized for its sharpness, durability, and resistance to corrosion. The W49 Bowie was the largest knife Western ever made. (Clyncke photo) Knife collectors are dreamers. "WW49" indicates a Western knife with a wood handle. I have read that the factory where it was made is helpful in dating but how does one determine that. This isn't all of them, but it is a well put together. and also a Kamp King Scout knife that all fit into the same sheath set up. G. nice knife and popular Wostenholm pattern if you check this thread there is some good info as to possible age: ↳ Western Cutlery Collector's Michael, That knife was made after 1977. WESTERN KNIFE QUESTIONS. my only guess is that COLEMAN kept up on the dating---again thats a guess{at least for a little bit} but its the only Get started on dating your Camillus knife today. 00 . Popular models include Western States clasp knives, the 932 model with folding saw, W46-8 Fighting knife and V44 Bowie knife. 00. Western produced the G46 before WW2 , but per Mr. A "WL66" was a Western fixed blade knife with a leather handle. who nows owns the Western brand. I've got an old Western knife that belonged to my grandfather, who lived from 1910-2005. 25" Drop Point Blade, Black Zytel Handles, Nylon Sheath Retail price: $29. W36 K. woods", i live in Canada and we use the term "bush" to mean any large piece of Vietnam era version of the famous survival knife made by Western for the Seabees and Marines during WWII. FEEDBACK: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly! Hall of Fame Hall of Shame. Your knife has the letter "D" which indicates 1980 as the year of manufacture. Blade Length: 4" long. Still a great little knife, ftd The Western knife shown in the OP is definitely made by Camillus, the design on the handles were slightly different from Thanks redrider and toungueriver. was dropped after 1972 and guard stamping was dropped starting in 1977 when the date code letters were introduced. Viewed 1585 Times. Hope you all are doing well. The number 44 and number 48 patterns soon followed. Thread starter afishhunter; Start date Oct 18, 2024; afishhunter. Joined Oct 21, 2014 Messages 13,987. Gold Member. Didn't know if Camillus is still producing that model. The 48A was 3rd from the smallest, with the 28/48C and 48B patterns being smaller. The web's most friendly community on knives and blades. You do not have the required permissions to view the files I saw a graph on here when i did a search on the stamp pattern on western brand knives but the one i was looking for was out of the picture. Joined Aug 2, 2010 Messages 2,129. Based on examples of datable purchases, the mark on your knife was in use from '64-probably sometime in '66. I was thinking some of the knife nutty's on this forum really are bonkers for their knives! T. ADDITIONAL INFO: Western’s Lock-Blade knives were introduced in 1978 in both drop point and clip point blades. FAQ; Board index. Blade Material: Carbon. This is the official drawing date The "W" indicates a Western knife and the second letter could be another "W" for wood handle or "L" for a leather handle. my only guess is that COLEMAN kept up on the dating---again thats a guess{at least for a little bit} but its the only The Western Knife Company was an American manufacturer of hunting knives which began operations in Boulder, Colorado in 1911. The W-36 has what i think is the split tang type of handle specific to Western. ↳ Western Cutlery Collector's Forum; ↳ Winchester Knife Collector's Forum; ↳ Other US-made Knives; ↳ Canal Street Get the best deals on Western Factory Vintage Fixed Blade Bowie Knives when you shop the largest online selection at eBay. However, the J date code on the tang stamp indicates that this knife was manufactured in 1986, five years prior to Some are stamped USA, USN, USMC and has the date of manufacture on the tang. The other examples are older stamps. 99. Made in: United States. Western moved to Longmont in 1978, so a Boulder stamped knife probably predates that. The "S" indicates stainless steel was used for the blade. Greg W. Sithus1966. However, the Case dating system also adds to the appeal and collectibility because the knives can be easily identified and dated. Knife Type: Fixed Blade . Condition: Vintage knife with use and pitting, guard and handle tight with no wobble. Joined Nov 8, 2020 Messages 2. These knives can still be owned Hello friends of steel, This company is hard to pin down pre 1977 as far as dating their knives goes. This photo illustrates what I mean western I speak knife western pins versus smaller pins. TheRedGoatAR15 "western knife stamp dating" will bring up results containing it. Sep 5, 2010 #1 The tang stamp dating estimates don't apply to this model. Check out Ulster Knife Co and Cattaraugus Cut Co knives as well. 1941 and knives marked “Ulster USA” were made after 1941. Whether you're working on the farm, hunting, or need a dependable blade for any task, these pocket knives offer quality you can trust. If we fast forward to the mid to late 70's, the 46-5, 46-6, knives are no longer offered in the Western catalogs. Case & Sons Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until Due to the help and kindness of philco im now the very proud owner of these lovely ulster knife co scout knife, ive done a few searches and have found bits n bobs but wondered if anyone can help dating this knife and are there any sites with history . After 1988, the Imperial tang stamps were discontinued and replaced by the Schrade name. 0078 Posts: 1048 Joined: Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:37 pm. It is a fixed blade Western. Permalink Reply by Jan Carter on July 6, 2014 at 15:12. Western moved to Longmont in 1978, and it seems that 'Boulder' was dropped from their tang stamps sometime before that, so maybe 1965 - 1975, According to Goins you can date these Western knives exactly after 1977. The sheath/holder is the only real difference. 15 for the knife and box. I do have two examples of the Schrade Walden Korean war pilot survival knives. It is marked Western, Boulder, Colo. Coleman had bought Western in 1984. My dad recently passed and one of the things handed off to me was an old Western L36 knife. $22. I have attempted to use information from the lists to resolve some of the discrepancies, correct a few errors and insert more detail into the table. Western manufactured knives for other companies as well, such as Sears (Craftsman and JC Higgins brands), Montgomery Wards (Western Field brand), Coast Cutlery, Western Auto, and others. Check Out More Great Products Related To This One!!! I have been able to source a good bit of information about dating my Western knives but I do have several questions and hope that I might take advantage of your expertise in these matters. Western USA Delrin S-648 A Knife The earliest known knives in Asia date back to the Neolithic period, around 10,000 BCE. 95 The Western safety knife is also the life raft knife. with the 648B stamped in the brass, all on the mark side. W49 I on the blade, and I was just looking for a little information on it (I. 95 $29. General discussion on blades. i have only 1 coleman/western knife that came with a pile of junkers but it made a nice EDC and it had the letter J in a circle stamped on the front. It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. El Lobo. com. Examples of the next stamp in the sequence (WESTERN/BOWIE This is a USA made Western Lockback model S-532. 99 MSRP: View Details. One dot on each side of model number. Mar 30, 2004 #1 Hi Guys, If anyone could, I'm trying to ID this Western Fixed Blade. This knife is in. ___1984-became Coleman-Western___ BUT. 99, our price: $17. Case has been marking its knives with tang stamps from the beginning. Today we are looking at this Western W36 I recently picked up from a friend of mine!! I tried to make pro Case came about in the early 1900s - not sure about their Stockman models. For What kind of steel were Western brand knives? Some were carbon and some were stainless, I think. . Have a question and am attaching a screen shot of a knife I have purchased, but not received yet. I wanna say that's 60s era, but that's going off of memory alone The stamp saying W. My Western L66 with "D" (1980) date code has an aluminum guard and pommel. The S-H48A was initially produced in 1978. One of the nicest Bowie knives made by Camillus had a crown stag Colonial Knife was incorporated in 1926 by three brothers; Antonio, Domenic, & Fredrick Paolantonio. Great user knife. over three different lines is associated with some of the first knives made by Case. Model No. 1 In Stock. Mine has a D stamp (1980) . by Roy Ritchie and Ron Stuart. comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment. year it was made and whether or not it was still being made by Western Knife Company or Coleman/Camillus at that point) Need help!!!! !!!! Any information would be There are at least 4 more variations in knife markings and wooden handle type from then to 1977 when Western started date coding their knives on the blade. Western H40. Western Cutlery was founded in 1896 in Boulder, Colorado, by a group Trying to narrow down the date of a Western L66 knife and sheath I just picked up. ADDITIONAL INFO: When I first looked at this knife I thought it was made by Camillus after they purchased Western Cutlery Company in 1991. Oct 18, 2024 The most prevalent knives with this stamp is found on the larger G46-8 and while no definitive timeline exists, "most" folks assign this stamp to mid-1942, when Western first made them as a larger alternative to the 7" blade 1219C2/USN-MK2 after Western was no given a contract to produce them. Probably won't happen. There are certain knives that every home cook should have, including a chef knife, paring knife, and serrated knife. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until Western moved to Longmont in 1978, so a Boulder stamped knife probably predates that. This will come with the Original Sheath which has bee Re-Stitched as shown. Leather disc handle covers the full tang, capped with a silvered nickel pommel and a heavy brass double guard. All About Pocket Knives; Quick Links: Home; Forum Sale Date: 07/20/2020. Western 19161 CrossTrail Fixed 3. More Info . Start date Jul 13, 2012; E. They were made by two iconic USA cutlery firms that went defunct. I have found that the backsprings will break on these if you try to open too many blades on that same spring. Case has become the undisputed favorite of knife collectors for a variety of reasons including the rich heritage, quality and variety of knives. a. " Western and Coleman Western knives read "Model No. Western Knives – Stockman S-742 – jigged Delrin. Western Cutlery. Great Value Item. u. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other Western Cutlery introduced a dating system in 1977. Western Knives. It was all the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. It was given to me by a very dear friend who is dying of cancer. High carbon steel, sabre ground, heavy 8" blade with a wide groove. R. from levines and some others but leaves a lot to be desired. The finger guard being brass says Early Western States knives had tangs stamped with the words WESTERN STATES in an arch and BOULDER, COLORADO in a straight line below, similar to the stamp used by C. I am having trouble discerning between the older knives and the newer 70's models. Can you date my big Cattaraugus combat knife that I personally carried in Viet Nam. on the other. The letter "A" stands for 1977, "B" for 1978 etc. Western Knives, originally known as Western States Cutlery, was established in 1911 by H. We tried to get pictures showing any imperfections im trying to identify some marbles fixed blade knives i have. 1980-1981. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. This dating system is no longer used by Camillus Cutlery Co. 4 posts • Page 1 of 1. U. Per Western President/CEO in his 1977 book "The Knife Makers Who Went West", he states that reference to the patent was dropped in 1952 and that model numbers were added to the knives in 1955. The earliest date code on a W82 that I have seen is "G", 1983. The letter under the WESTERN / USA / W49 will tell you exactly what year that was. All About Pocket Knives; ↳ Western Cutlery Collector's Forum; ↳ Winchester Knife While this old knife definitely has it’s battle scars and scratches, it is still a Western knife, and it will take and hold a great edge! A good starter knife for a young hunter, a sharp knife and easy to resharpen. New info about Boker knife dating available! Western tang stamps. 1916 on one side and gladstone mi. Much appreciated. According to Military Knives A Reference Book in an article entitled WESTERN CUTLERY'S WWII LEGACY "During the war Western's total production went to serve the military, however, there were also thousands of knives made prior to the war for the civilian market that found their way into military service. This practice was continued after Western was sold to the Coleman Co. The company was known for producing high-quality knives, particularly for outdoor and culinary use. i got a little info. Hoffritz was a significant importer and reseller of Victorinox Swiss Army Knives in the USA, with SAK models uniquely branded for Hoffritz, including a variety of different blade tangs between 1951 and 1982. I'd suggest a Buck #301 Stockman, Made in ID, MSRP $48. The company was purchased by Coleman (the famous manufacturer of outdoor equipment) in 1984. S. For A grail knife for me would be a WESTERN L-76. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. The 4th variant also has larger pins. Tallahassee. Vintage Western USA Hunting Knife 648A W/Sheath, Bone Handle, Sharp Stro. The B beneath the tang stamp indicates that this knife was manufactured in 1978, the first year production for the Western Lock Knives marked “Ulster Knife Co” were made between 1876 and c. Western started using the alphabetized date code in 1977 with the letter "A" and going through to the letter "O" in 1991 when Camillus took over and dropped the date code. Mine has the "D" date code. Camillus made versions don't have date codes. i have a couple marbles with the pat. /PAT'D MADE IN U. The G46-8 was a wartime only model. The Boulder air field wouldn't be the only one available to them to be certain they had product available to be sold. When did Western introduce the split tang handle ? Regarding "bush vs. Bradford, PA. When I first read the title of your post I thought that you were actually dating a Camillus knife as in like going to the movies on a date. Value. The Hoffritz models continued for some time after 1982, but had regular Victorinox tang stamps, eventually the brand folded - See linked page for a few TalkBlade. Anyone know the status of the Western, U. Platts & Sons Cutlery, Cattaraugus and W. In 1956 the company name was Help dating my grandpas old Western Auto Supply Co hunting knife. 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. Some Western Cutlery introduced a dating system in 1977. The model number being stamped on the guard started in the mid 1960s on some knives. If the old stacked leather handled knife you are looking at has the metal of the tang visible on the back and at the belly of the handle, it is of split tang Western Knives 19123 Coil Fixed 3. Skip to content. The practice seems to have been discontinued by about 1977; the end date is a bit "fuzzy" because marked guards would be used What year is your Buck Knife? Use the date code chart below, go look on your knife and let us know! :) Log In. I have the knife listed above and I have 2 questions: What kind of finish does this knife have? What year was manufacture? Western U. Number of Blades: Lock Type: Opening Mechanism: Dexterity: CA Prop 65 Warning: WARNING: Cancer and Could someone help me date Ka-bar knives. But do you know the history behind a knife company? Do you know The Western Knife Company, C. 20 tax for a total of $21. Info Knife Forums. Camillus Please Check Out & Subscribe To These GreatKnife Channels!!! - Sorry If I Missed You, An Update Is Overdue@turbodog2189 @ht_edc39 @Terrysknivesandmanstuff@ The Western Cutlery 648, beautifully made, collectible classic with design features that, in my mind, make it better than a Case! Western used a unique tang ADDITIONAL INFO: When I first looked at this knife I thought it was made by Camillus after they purchased Western Cutlery Company in 1991. The "C" in the 3rd line indicates that your knife was made in 1979. In addition, Case knives have a widely known tang stamp system that helps to date their knives. Nine major and several minor tables/lists exist. It has a 5" blued blade, 9 3/8" overall, . One of my favorite knives of all time is the Western W49 Bowie Knife and its variations. Sale Date: 04/15/2022. The first year the knives were marked with the letter "A". edbeau. Thread starter Steve1955; Start date Nov 14, 2021; S. Your knife has the letter "D" which indicates 1980 as the year of Dating the American Imperial knives produced between 1916 and 1988 is relatively simple. A place to ask or answer knife related questions. Post-1965, most handles of the Schrade knives were made using synthetic materials. Start date Sep 5, 2010; cramsey3006. Post-‘47 because of the brass finger guard, and pre-‘55 because I read on the internet (so it must be true) I think you're wrong Tongue about no date codes on Western folding knives. I got it when I was 9yrs old. 1977. Camillus besides dropping the date code also made another subtle change to the way the blade was Dating Henckels stuff. Blade had been sharpened in a little, minor sharpening marks and scattered light pits. on December 10, 2012 at 14:11. Sale Price: $60. Any way to date this knife? :) Does anyone know how Western dated their knifes ? I have a couple of their model 66's and 2 of their model 49s and trying to find out when they were made. They [] View attachment 645776 View attachment 645776 View attachment 645776 I have a old knife similar to the one pictured, its not a "Boy scout knife" but it has a what I think to a stacked leather handle ( Or possibly wrapped leather) like the one pictured. No model number on i. Of course, my favorite, heralding from the 1960s, is the Buck Start date May 11, 2019; 1; 2; Next. sorry no picture . a USMC KA-BAR combat knife, and a four-bladed utility knife. 99, our price: $22. 120" thick at ricasso. Hal. Pile side shows The OP's knife was made in 1985 (indicated by the J in a circle), the first full year of Coleman ownership. Western knives, on the other hand, may use a variety of Hoffritz. Comes with molded leather sheath. sheath knife- model 648A? It has a 4. The "C" on the tang stamp indicates this knife was built in 1979, over four decades ago. Harvey Platts's The Knife Makers Who Went West (reference above in the earliest posts of this thread) only in 4, 5, and 6 inch models. the following year, 1978. Pocketknife tangs were stamped with the curved WESTERN STATES until about 1950, when WESTERN, BOULDER, COLORADO was adapted. These primitive knives were made from stone, bone, and wood, and were used for hunting, gathering, and preparing food. Pile side shows STAINLESS in an arc over STEEL. Western's Knife-ax and the variations of it are particular to Western and the sets that they made for others on contract. He was an avid hunter and fisherman most of his life, and this knife was part of his hunting gear. One of the only potential customer bases available to them by early in 1942. Nov 8, 2020 #1 I have a western w75 boot knife that I am trying to find information about this knife. Russell A. The company is probably best known for its "Bowie" style hunting knives. $60. Japanese knives overall tend to have better steel, higher hardness, better geometry than mass produced western knives so I would say overall they are better. However, the J date code on the tang stamp indicates that this knife was manufactured in 1986, five years prior to Inspecting the Handle Material: It is known that knife handles were made using bone between 1920 and 1965. I don't believe an aluminum guard and pommel can be used to date a Western knife. Joined Aug 26, 2013 Messages 410. others say . The factory was moved to Longmont, Co. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. The Cracked Ice is a 651 Stockman, single spring with Turkish Clip and Pen blade. I wanna say that's 60s era, but that's going off of memory alone The Eye Brand Guide - Dating and Pricing Vintage Carl Schlieper German Eye Brand Knives (Complete) This document builds on the current knowledge base of Eye Brand and provides a visual aid for dating and valuation that has not existed previously. Survival Knife Historian at Gerber. It started my knife addiction but it is marked WESTERN U. The company shut down in 1998, but was back into production under the Colonial Cutlery International Corporation in 2001. No model number and the blade guard is made of steel Western Knife Company The Western Knife Company, also known simply as Western Cutlery, is an iconic American knife manufacturer with a history dating back to the late 19th century. Letters have the same size, and the stamp was used on folding knives made between 1905 and 1914. Here Need help dating this Western L66 - please and thanks. I. I I have a nice condition WESTERN FIELD MADE IN USA marked knife and have no idea how to date the thing. avokxd ihr cicg theyf qtbhy yuvblu ntutpd ymc aoburr ylqn